The New Bartz: what you like or don't like?

[DatDarkOne]

Any smart person will know that there are a few issues that need to worked out. That being said. I'm starting this thread really just to see what crazy comments I will get and to gauge the intelligence level of the general L2Blaze player. So let the ignorance began and hopefully there will be a few sensible comments somewhere in the mix.

Remember to try to stay on topic.

[cozmin]

i like everything except donators GRRRRR

[slash2]

i don't like fire's ecenomy knowledge :)

[Nix]

- i like ... comunity,friends etc.
- i don't like ... farming adena alone all the day.

ps. some harder mobs with nice drops , that we could pt. on will be usefull .

[Mune]

ps. some harder mobs with nice drops , that we could pt. on will be usefull .

those are called "raid bosses"


ot :
i like :
the fact that the sv has been wiped


i don`t like :
anti-archer buffs (at least make uD and UE 2h too =)) )
the new IOP that is veery hard for an archer
the fact that we can`t get ls , bews,beas from mobs (with like .. 5% chance at least :| )

[Nix]

those are called "raid bosses"


not that hard wtf:) and raidbosses have sucky drops , Slash ... Fire's economy knowledge is usefull for donating .

[Mynye]

i think that 1 day is not enough to make an opinion about what we like or not. In 1 day we only could lvl and nothing more... ill say my opinion maybe tomorrow... atm all i like is that i will have a CH in aden, and i will have the ONE that i always wanted :D :D :D :D

[Amarie]

You have to give us time to do adjusting, I will be increasing the adena drop rates for Hellbound and IoP but they will not drop enchant scrolls. I am going to talk to Fire and Cephius about lowering the enchants scrolls in the GM shop a little bit [in discussion no promises]. You guys are so impatient that you don't realize Blaze was never ment to have +18 gear in 1 day, a week yes but no more than 2 weeks. Also maybe if there is such a problem with donators hunting down the week possible talk to fire about diabling the live map for about a week to give the players time to enchant up their gear, instead of being hunting down by donators....

[lordpete]

I just, want that blessed scrolls could be droped in Iop or in hellbound

I like:how Amarie administrate the server, i like my friends in server
I dont like: the disadvantage of donators and normal members in wipes, and the few drop of quest items.

[lordpete]

I hate: When my friends suddenly leave server

[felipedes]

It's very good the new Bartz server, skills in lvl 81, Zariche falls frequent, etc, etc. Only negative point is that not drop more enchants for in Four Sepulchers, I have that to recriate my spoil to go in Parmassus ^^

With Wipe I left of being Dattebayo and now I am Naruto in person, GAMBATÊ! : D

[pro101]

I like the wipe thing
Don't like the drop of materials that needed 4 noblesse quest (i.e. Reagant Pouch, hellate's maid drops only 3 of it and in 50% probability), pls increase it, dont wanna waste 2-3 hours just to make 5 lunargents...
Thnx in advance!

[comandox]

I hate mage's critical rate....it's insaine...!

[darth]

i dont like GMs and they dont like me=))

[comandox]

i dont like GMs and they dont like me=))

they love us ....:old:

We are veterans on this server =))..engine of server ..etc ......

[I9400]

Like:........
dont like.. the drops (joke)
xp stupid
mobs OP
grind all day to get 79 please its a pvp server you should get max in a day
not +18 everything but atleast lvl 85 your a sitting duck to all donators
when i first came to bartz everyone was OP but i made it in a few days i was kicking ass and taking names but with the changes not possible (sure if you like low rate the new bartz is sure for you) as for me i have had my fill of the grind 3+years on retail im done what that **** till bartz becomes like the server that i use to love and play im done

[Gears]

What i dont like?, Bishops nuking like freaking nukers... and m crits hurt now without ressists too much :p (bishop with blue icarus weapon, kiling iop mobs in couple of hits (2-3 sec) ) same in pvp ;P )

[lionheart15]

I like the wipe thing
Don't like the drop of materials that needed 4 noblesse quest (i.e. Reagant Pouch, hellate's maid drops only 3 of it and in 50% probability), pls increase it, dont wanna waste 2-3 hours just to make 5 lunargents...
Thnx in advance!

i completely agree

[Gears]

nah nobl should be as hard as possible ;P not 1 hour job

[wannabe]

no1s give a **** about ****ty opinions ... just make em suffer gms gg :P

[alexauron]

I dont like Song of Windstorm and Dance of Bladestorm at the buffer, those plus chant of protection and Arrow Deflect buff from tankers, archers do a ridiculous damage, like the chars with those buffs had perma Ultimate Defense regarding arrow damage.

[Shia]

//Agree with Alex i was hitting crits of 41 last night to mages in avadon, when i was with a SoulBow and Majestic.

I dont want to knwo what sould be on a tanke maybe 2 or 3 of damage.

[DatDarkOne]

I'm glad to see more sensible comments than I expected. This is a good omen for the server community. Thank you and Keep them comming.

[gerbil]

Things I like....

>I'll come back to that after I've played for a few days.

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Things that I'm not too fond of....

Isle of Prayer's new ratio- EVERY mob is a Champ, and even with a party of four including a healer, I just can't heal fast enough when just REGULAR mobs hit for 6k-9k and critting for 18k with full buffs.

Doners with +20 weapons WILL RULE the servers. There are no if's, and's, or but's about it. So at this point, the drops for scrolls seemed to have been turned down, so we have to spend hours grinding scrolls and hopefully get lucky to get weapons over +8? Not cool.

I know that this because the economy was FUBAR, but, I liked it when you could create a character and have fun with him. That's one reason why I played this server. If I wanted to play something close to retail, I would have been on Kain server. This was somewhat of a 'fun server' without everything being handed to you. You still had to work, but you got faster gratification.

I'm really asking the GM's to at least meet the veterans on this server halfway. I know that you guys can't give us everything you want, and I am sure that most of the vets understand. But the fact of the matter is... this is coming extremely close to retail without being stamped 'RETAIL' right on the forehead.

And it seems like we as a server have lost more than we have gained. The point that I'm making- please meet us halfway with some of our requests. Let us vote or send send suggestion or something. We know that you can't give us everything.

Thank you for listening to my soapbox :D

[YooHee]

gm's gone wild here
thinking that wiping out characters
will resolve ingame problems
im really disappointed about it... but nothing will change here
as Fire said its a new Bartz now...
well goodluck players on New Bartz..
Bye Bye

[j0kER]

I don't like that all the vietnam playes l2blaze. So wellcome to l2Viets

[Mynye]

lol its been like this since 3 month ... u just woke up now?

[KingOfKings]

i dont like l2j platform))) wallshooting ****ed up resp of mobs etc...
and 1 suggestion make xp amount that needed to lvl up from 79->80 80->81 like 76-77

[seba11ca]

lol l2viets ? max viets i count is less than 20 , max online at the same time is around 10. Donater will rule the server ? yes for now when most ppl still weak but give it a week lots of ppl will have +18 sets and weaps. I played like 2 days and got 3 +18 weaps almost +18 jewls set already

[Cephius]

lol l2viets ? max viets i count is less than 20 , max online at the same time is around 10. Donater will rule the server ? yes for now when most ppl still weak but give it a week lots of ppl will have +18 sets and weaps. I played like 2 days and got 3 +18 weaps almost +18 jewls set already

How did you get the jewel set? Did you raid QA, baium, antharas and zaken and got the valakas from the event?

[TheNamelessOne]

Hum i think he meant regular jewels....... And seriously you have to do something about mag resistances i know when they are to high mages get owned..but look it this way today i got in a fight and the mage was in a grade i was full s grade with jewels +10 and he killed me with 3 spells or so ....2 things maybe warlords are really chitty(which they are) or something must be done with or mag defense or resistances buffs . Cuz lets be frank L2 without warriors is alot worse then l2 with no mages , would be crucial to fix this before to much people get aware and pissed. I loved you server man but i dislike mage classes and i wont make one just cuz serv is buggy leaves me only one option your serv becomes second place in playing, ill come around see if anything gets fixed and i will keep new players aware of the changes you made.

[hthepatriot]

About Bartz Wipe
==========
I can't not bear the costs we lost due to the Wipe in Bartz:
My brother and I lost:
06 Sets Ring Boss +18
04 Dynasty Robe Sets +18
02 Dynasty Heavy Sets +18
03 Dynasty Light Sets +18
15 Icarus Weapon with good augment +18
and many others LifeStone and other Valuable items
Plus with Clan Level 8 Full skills.

I thinks to do it again it will cost us so much time and effort.
I was the one who voted for Blaze a lot before and always agreed with Fire before, but this times I am loosing trust on Fire,

Me, my brother and a lot friends of us will have to leave since we feel too pain. So bye bye all our old friends and bye bye Blaze,

[alexauron]

You arent the only one who lost stuff, heck, I wanted to say a lot of things here but I have deleted posts I wanted to write, why?

1) Dont want to make some people feel bad.
2) Tired of making suggestions for now.
3) What's done is done, I guess there is no turning back on making something equal for all the players.
4) I will post stuff I disagree with just when is way to obvious, (archer resist buffs is an example) as for the rest, i'll just sit back and watch.

[DatDarkOne]

lol l2viets ? max viets i count is less than 20 , max online at the same time is around 10. Donater will rule the server ? yes for now when most ppl still weak but give it a week lots of ppl will have +18 sets and weaps. I played like 2 days and got 3 +18 weaps almost +18 jewls set already

Funny thing about that is you will now be called a donator noob. Just because you got good gear now and others don't. I've seen it before when my friend won a Pvp match against someone. He didn't donate but got called a donator noob. I was right there killing the losers friend and didn't get called donator. Here's the really funny part. I AM a donator. So more than half of the ppl on server don't even recognize the real donators, they just scream out "donator" to make themselves feel better about getting owned.

[Dallas]

whats sad is the donaters have to go and kill low lvls and non donaters who are trying to lvl and farm adena, whats sad is a mage can one shot an entire party, whats sad is the mobs in hellbound and iop one shot people as well.

[Ain]

The main problem is the donaters. Almost every old Kain player hate being pked by donaters. They just shouldn't be allowed to kill lower lvls in general. If we couldn't get pked by the donaters and have to rebuff every five minutes then I would gladly stay and play. No offense but you probably going to lose a whole lot more players then getting any. I love blaze and i don't want see it close.

[Cephius]

whats sad is the donaters have to go and kill low lvls


They just shouldn't be allowed to kill lower lvls in general.

Erm you do know its illegal to pk someone who is roughly 20 levels below you?

[GokuSSJ2]

I don't like that all the vietnam playes l2blaze. So wellcome to l2Viets

About Viets clan I sow them on l2Dragonlance xD

[GokuSSJ2]

About Bartz Wipe
==========
I can't not bear the costs we lost due to the Wipe in Bartz:
My brother and I lost:
06 Sets Ring Boss +18
04 Dynasty Robe Sets +18
02 Dynasty Heavy Sets +18
03 Dynasty Light Sets +18
15 Icarus Weapon with good augment +18
and many others LifeStone and other Valuable items
Plus with Clan Level 8 Full skills.

I thinks to do it again it will cost us so much time and effort.
I was the one who voted for Blaze a lot before and always agreed with Fire before, but this times I am loosing trust on Fire,

Me, my brother and a lot friends of us will have to leave since we feel too pain. So bye bye all our old friends and bye bye Blaze,
I lost a full clan daily players with +18 made from me :P.I made like 150 weapons and 150 armors +18.It was so easy from spoil to make xD.

[DatDarkOne]

The main problem is the donaters. Almost every old Kain player hate being pked by donaters. They just shouldn't be allowed to kill lower lvls in general. If we couldn't get pked by the donaters and have to rebuff every five minutes then I would gladly stay and play. No offense but you probably going to lose a whole lot more players then getting any. I love blaze and i don't want see it close.
Read my earlier post please. Please speak for yourself. I'm an Old Kain player and I haven't heard anyof that stuff from the others. They don't like to get zerged by player with no skill is what I hear. I've said this before, just because someone might have the best gear doesn't mean they will play any better.
Will ppl stop assuming that everyone with decent gear is a donator. Most of the actual donators donated for stuff you can't even see like adena , clan hall lvl 8, AA, or noble. Yes I know who some are and I'm one of them. As for killing low lvls, if the low lvl is in high lvl area and talking trash then that's a dead low lvl.

[j00hz]

more players is >good!!!< > Bad> bishops are overpowered now..

[DatDarkOne]

OK, GMs you can close thread now. I've seen enough.
Thank you all for your comments

[Cephius]

OK, GMs you can close thread now. I've seen enough.
Thank you all for your comments

Your wish is my command!

PS, I will discuss balance issues and economy teaks with Fire and Amarie ASAP.