:S

[Faby]

1 would think that by this time this forum should have a QQ-ing section, but since it hasn't I'll post here; I am a noob after all and that's something impossible to hide so i'll just admit it... moving on to the subject: shouldn't nukers deal more damage than tanks?
As consecuense of what i state before, i know nothing about class balance but, as a storm screamer only dealing 250 of damage and recivig 700 from paladins is quite... how to say it? Oh well i'm a lady so I won't say it :P
Since basically all the players have a 24% more of m def mages r ruined, am i wrong?

[DeShaBoo]

No they shouldnt,end game tanks in retail are prolly one of the strongest class together with daggers and kamaels.Mages need to learn to play in groups,with a defensive tank and a healer,days of mages nuking solo at pvp and winning are over.

[Faby]

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[DeShaBoo]

Besides nuking at one of the highest m def warriors that also have 100% shield block that affects magic doesnt seem the brightest idea.

[Faby]

Besides nuking at one of the highest m def warriors that also have 100% shield block that affects magic doesnt seem the brightest idea.

630 Good point, but that's not the issue any ways...

[Six]

well faby i agree and disagree with you at some points, i also think that mages should hit a bit harder however not vs a tank. the classes that concerns me atm are light armor classes... i hit them <1000 and get 2500-2700 critical hits (which in fact they do a lot)... kiting them is useless (even if you land slow on a dagger its useless since he can port behind you and stab or if its a kamael you are fighting you'll get 'momently paralized' which is enaugh to get killed).

as a matter of fact i agree with what desh said about fighting in a group however if happen to fight a random pvp you have low chance to survive...

[Faby]

:dead: 632

[DeShaBoo]

That damange its almost correct tho,considering the gear we have compared to retail.

[Six]

That damange its almost correct tho,considering the gear we have compared to retail.

so lets correct cp/hp/mp too ?

[DeShaBoo]

Wut you mean?

[Six]

if we hit hard (due to +18 gear) so lets increase cp/hp/mp to make all classes more even...




*no need to say but just in case: dont take this post seriously.

[DeShaBoo]

Hum in other time i would have agreed with this kind of idea but right now i think Blaze pvp its going on a good way to balance,so i dont think its a good idea,right now at least.

[Faby]

633 Hey please!635 I f U like I open another thread for that matter...
I don't care who i'm fighting against for a storm screamer making criticals of 300 is a joke.634 Storms have been always being nukers,other wise give me 8k of HP more...
How come i can't go to PvP alone?636 Isn't it a PvP server or mages aren't suppsoe to go to PvP anymore??? I don't like this, mages will be erased from the server....

[Cephius]

633 Hey please!635 I f U like I open another thread for that matter...
I don't care who i'm fighting against for a storm screamer making criticals of 300 is a joke.634 Storms have been always being nukers,other wise give me 8k of HP more...
How come i can't go to PvP alone?636 Isn't it a PvP server or mages aren't suppsoe to go to PvP anymore??? I don't like this, mages will be erased from the server....

lol theres a sensationalist claim if ever I saw one.

I dont see anyone else saying mages are weak o.o

[Faby]

jijijiji it's just a posibility. In aPvP server if a class can't compete in PvP. Would U use it?

[Cephius]

jijijiji it's just a posibility. In aPvP server if a class can't compete in PvP. Would U use it?

Ofc not but mages are NO where NEAR unless :P

[Faby]

with every player having a 24&#37; of m def more mages practicaly r. I give damage of 147 reciving 700 healig with vampirick claw (for example) around 70 for hit and having basically half of the CP/HP of other classes calcule the out come....

[Faby]

Two beleth are too much for mages

[DeShaBoo]

No one uses two beleths,just a few donators.

[Faby]

2 beleth r really easy to get, u don't need to be a donator. U don't even need to have it enchanted

[DeShaBoo]

Beleth hardly changed anything for mages.

[Faby]

in which server r U playing? Oo

[Dovanian]

:loveblaze:
No they shouldnt,end game tanks in retail are prolly one of the strongest class together with daggers and kamaels.Mages need to learn to play in groups,with a defensive tank and a healer,days of mages nuking solo at pvp and winning are over.

All my thoughts in one complete package.

Finally somebody says it other than me :)

You forgot to mention Gladis though. They pwn.

:loveblaze:

[Six]

I dont see anyone else saying mages are weak o.o

there are not many players who use mages for 1vs1 pvp, the only use i got for a mage atm is a farming class. nothing else.

[Faby]

there are not many players who use mages for 1vs1 pvp, the only use i got for a mage atm is a farming class. nothing else.

That's why i am complining 643 Mages r not justa afarming class, well don't use to be, They r reduce to that just now....
How come nobody notice the differece!!!644
It's driving me crazy.... U can tell tons of things and I'd probably get 20% of them, but U can't tell me that there is no difference in PvP between hitting 157 and 1k of damage!! I'm not good at games, but I'm good at math sh r hitting an 85% less!!!! Don't tell that's an unnotice fact!!!

Ceph U blame me of sensationalist (I know kinda true) but answer me, i ask u once again: what's the future of a suddenly became farming class in a PvP server?

PD: as I said before, I know nothing about retail more than that we r not playing in one. (That's why i don't care how is it like)

PD: Nobody else saying anything about it???? God dammit I an the only SH in here?????

[DeShaBoo]

Welcome to gracia final,the rise of melees.You may adress your frustration to ncsoft in austin,texas.

[Faby]

.... 646 .... NCSoft .... 647

[Six]

PD: Nobody else saying anything about it???? God dammit I an the only SH in here?????

nope, its because (almost?)everyone got another char to play on... and they possibly use sph to farm, so they dont give a damn about how sph doing in battle.(got killed -> find a new place to farm at)


back to the main topic: the thing that mages lack is the battle survivability. the only mage classes imo who stand a chance are doomcryers and soultakers.

[DeShaBoo]

Or any nuker with a tank and a healer,but im sure those are so hard to get.

[Six]

Or any nuker with a tank and a healer,but im sure those are so hard to get.

yesterday i was in pvp pt for few min with you and a healer(ok i admit the healer didnt stand a chance) in any attempt i was either stunned and shot by an archer or a dagger ported behind me, back stabbed and killed me before you had a chance to cast aura of hate...(imo the archers were standing too far but still...)

i have total life of 9.3k (CP and HP) and i get critical hit by any light armor user for 2k+ (a lot more with skill crit) which i already mentioned they do a lot. i have exactly 1500 cst. spd and i get hit ~3 times before i finish casting wind vortex(not to mention the land rate). lets say total dmg received so far is 4.5k, 2 or 3 more hits and i'm down.



anyway i'm going to try some buffs+dyes combos later but i dont expect much

p.s. for desh, lets forget for a second about pvp in parties and concentrate on solo pvp'ing...

p.s. for all, i'm not asking for some 'nerf' on light armor classes...

[Faby]

I've 5 other chars but SH have been always my favourite, that's why this situation is so sad for me =(
SH was balanced good at solo PvP, i don't mean it used to be a winner class but U always have a chance....

[Dallas]

i seeen 3 active mages pvpin............and 2 other healers besides me but im not anything to worry bout cause my shit suxs

[DeShaBoo]

Like i said,days of mage solo pvp ended long ago.